From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Jun 4 12:35:45 2010 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer at lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:35:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: weekly news - 20100604 Message-ID: <20100604103545.D6E639B30E@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (4) freeplane-1.0.44: Redesigned FreeMind, for mind-mapping kaffeine-1.0: A xine based frontend for KDE4 macchanger-1.5.0: Changes you mac address simplejson-2.1.1: extensible JSON encoder and decoder for Python 2.5+ Removed modules: (1) kaffeine4 New versions: (124) SDL_gfx : 2.0.20 -> 2.0.21 VirtualBox : 3.2.0 -> 3.2.2 abiword : 2.8.4 -> 2.8.5 adplay : 1.6 -> 1.7 adplug : 2.1 -> 2.2.1 amarok4 : 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 aria2 : 1.9.0 -> 1.9.3 audacious : 2.2 -> 2.3 audacious-plugins : 2.2 -> 2.3 audacity : 1.3.11 -> 1.3.12-beta avidemux : 2.5.2 -> 2.5.3 dhcp : 4.1.1 -> 4.1.1-P1 ekiga : 3.2.6 -> 3.2.7 evolution : 2.28.0 -> 2.30.1.2 exiv2 : 0.19 -> 0.20 gerbv : 2.1.0 -> 2.4.0 giggle : 0.4.91 -> 0.5 gnome-commander : 1.2.8.5 -> 1.2.8.6 gnumeric : 1.10.4 -> 1.10.5 jpeg : 8a -> 8b kde-l1-n-ca at vlencia : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ar : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-bg : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ca : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-cs : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-csb : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-da : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-de : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-el : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-en_GB : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-eo : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-es : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-et : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-eu : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-fi : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-fr : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-fy : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ga : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-gl : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-gu : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-he : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-hi : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-hr : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-hu : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-id : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-is : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-it : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ja : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-kk : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-km : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-kn : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ko : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-lt : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-lv : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-mai : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-mk : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ml : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-nb : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-nds : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-nl : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-nn : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-pa : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-pl : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-pt : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-pt_BR : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ro : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-ru : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-si : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-sk : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-sl : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-sr : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-sv : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-tg : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-tr : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-uk : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-wa : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-zh_CN : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde-l10n-zh_TW : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kde4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeaccessibility4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeadmin4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeartwork4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdebase4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdebase4-runtime : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdebase4-workspace : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdebindings4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeedu4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdegames4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdegraphics4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdelibs4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdemultimedia4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdenetwork4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdepim4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdepim4-runtime : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdepimlibs4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeplasma4-addons : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdesdk4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdetoys4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdeutils4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 kdewebdev4 : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 libgpg-error : 1.7 -> 1.8 libmodplug : 0.8.8 -> 0.8.8.1 libssh : 0.4.3 -> 0.4.4 linux_logo : 5.04 -> 5.10 lyx : 1.6.6 -> 1.6.6.1 mercurial : 1.5.3 -> 1.5.4 midori : 0.2.5 -> 0.2.6 mtr : 0.75 -> 0.77 netpbm : 10.35.74 -> 10.35.75 opal : 3.6.6 -> 3.6.8 openssl : 1.0.0 -> 1.0.0a openvrml : 0.18.5 -> 0.18.6 oxygen-icons : 4.4.3 -> 4.4.4 parted : 2.2 -> 2.3 pidgin : 2.7.0 -> 2.7.1 poppler-data : 0.4.0 -> 0.4.2 ptlib : 2.6.5 -> 2.6.7 pyopenssl : 0.8 -> 0.9 strace : 4.5.19 -> 4.5.20 tree : 1.5.2.2 -> 1.5.3 udisks : 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 whois : 5.0.4 -> 5.0.5 x264-snapshot : 20100207-2245 -> 20100530-2245 xchat : 2.8.6 -> 2.8.8 ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From dennisveatch at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 5 16:06:59 2010 From: dennisveatch at bellsouth.net (Dennis Veatch) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 10:06:59 -0400 Subject: As side note on openoffice.src Message-ID: <201006051006.59107.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> On x86_64 this compiles fine with zlib-1.2.5. On x86 it will not so you will want to do; lin -w 1.2.4 zlib and then do OO. I have not found a suitable work around. zlib-1.2.5 was also a problem with OO-3.2.0 on x86. -- Dennis Veatch From zbiggy at o2.pl Sat Jun 5 18:25:56 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 18:25:56 +0200 Subject: As side note on openoffice.src In-Reply-To: <201006051006.59107.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> References: <201006051006.59107.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <201006051825.56475.zbiggy@o2.pl> > On x86_64 this compiles fine with zlib-1.2.5. On x86 it will not so you will > want to do; > > lin -w 1.2.4 zlib > > and then do OO. I have not found a suitable work around. zlib-1.2.5 was also a > problem with OO-3.2.0 on x86. > How about using --without-system-zlib on BUILD? Someone tested this one? If you put lin -w 1.2.4 zlib before OO build remember to put lin zlib after build. We should not downgrade zlib on whole system just because one module. If you work on resolving this issue please try attached patch. zbiggy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: zlib-1.2.5-lfs-defines.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 1663 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dennisveatch at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 5 18:36:41 2010 From: dennisveatch at bellsouth.net (Dennis Veatch) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:36:41 -0400 Subject: As side note on openoffice.src In-Reply-To: <201006051825.56475.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <201006051006.59107.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> <201006051825.56475.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <201006051236.41475.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> On Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:25:56 pm Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote: > > On x86_64 this compiles fine with zlib-1.2.5. On x86 it will not so you > > will want to do; > > > > lin -w 1.2.4 zlib > > > > and then do OO. I have not found a suitable work around. zlib-1.2.5 was > > also a problem with OO-3.2.0 on x86. > > How about using --without-system-zlib on BUILD? Someone tested this one? > If you put lin -w 1.2.4 zlib before OO build remember to put lin zlib after > build. We should not downgrade zlib on whole system just because one > module. > > If you work on resolving this issue please try attached patch. > > zbiggy Good point and one that completely blew by me. I do not have time ATM to pursue this any further. Feel free to correct as needed. -- Dennis Veatch From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Jun 11 12:35:42 2010 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer at lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: weekly news - 20100611 Message-ID: <20100611103542.8C8C69B21A@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (8) Class-MethodMaker-2.16: Create generic methods for OO Perl FlightGear-data-2.0.0: Provides the base files required by FlightGear Module-Build-0.3607: Build and install Perl modules OpenSceneGraph-2.8.3: A high performance real-time graphics toolkit Software-License-0.101410: Perl packages that provide templated software licenses Test-Inter-1.01: perl framework for more readable interactive test scripts Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08: Check for pod coverage in your distribution YAML-Tiny-1.41: Read/Write YAML files with as Perl little code as possible Removed modules: (1) fgfs-base New versions: (52) FlightGear : 0.9.10 -> 2.0.0 SimGear : 1.0.0 -> 2.0.0 VirtualBox : 3.2.2 -> 3.2.4 cfengine : 3.0.0 -> 3.0.5 dash : 0.5.6 -> 0.5.6.1 django : 1.1 -> 1.2.1 dnsmasq : 2.52 -> 2.53 drupal : 6.16 -> 6.17 exim : 4.71 -> 4.72 farsight2 : 0.0.19 -> 0.0.20 flash-plugin-10 : 10.0.45.2 -> 10.1.53.64 freeciv : 2.1.11 -> 2.2.1 gconfmm : 2.28.0 -> 2.28.2 gettext : 0.18 -> 0.18.1.1 gobject-introspection : 0.6.12 -> 0.6.14 goffice : 0.8.3 -> 0.8.5 konversation4 : 1.2.3 -> 1.3 lftp : 4.0.8 -> 4.0.9 libX11 : 1.3.3 -> 1.3.4 libXcomposite : 0.4.1 -> 0.4.2 libXdamage : 1.1.2 -> 1.1.3 libXext : 1.1.1 -> 1.1.2 libXfixes : 4.0.4 -> 4.0.5 libXrender : 0.9.5 -> 0.9.6 libebml : 0.8.0 -> 1.0.0 libmatroska : 0.9.0 -> 1.0.0 libsigc++2 : 2.2.7 -> 2.2.8 libtool : 2.2.6b -> 2.2.10 licq : 1.3.8 -> 1.3.9 linphone : 3.3.0 -> 3.3.1 lvm2 : 2.02.66 -> 2.02.67 mkvtoolnix : 3.4.0 -> 4.0.0 openoffice-src : 3.2.0 -> 3.2.1 ortp : 0.16.0 -> 0.16.3 pgadmin3 : 1.10.2 -> 1.10.3 phonon : 4.4.1 -> 4.4.2 pkgconfig : 0.23 -> 0.25 poppler : 0.12.4 -> 0.14.0 postfix : 2.7.0 -> 2.7.1 qt4 : 4.6.2 -> 4.6.3 rocksndiamonds : 3.2.6.0 -> 3.3.0.0 stellarium : 0.10.4 -> 0.10.5 sudo : 1.7.2p6 -> 1.7.2p7 telepathy-butterfly : 0.5.8 -> 0.5.11 udev : 156 -> 157 util-macros : 1.7.0 -> 1.8.0 wesnoth : 1.6.5 -> 1.8.2 wireshark : 1.2.8 -> 1.2.9 wv : 1.2.4 -> 1.2.7 x264-snapshot : 20100530-2245 -> 20100604-2245 xf86-input-elographics : 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4 xfce4-mpc-plugin : 0.3.4 -> 0.3.5 Moved modules: swfdec : web -> zdeprecated ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From rpyne at kinfolk.org Sat Jun 12 23:23:44 2010 From: rpyne at kinfolk.org (Richard B. Pyne) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:23:44 -0600 Subject: ISO status Message-ID: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> Since it has been 18 months + since the last ISO release, is there any plan to release a new ISO in the near future? Failing that, is there any documentation that could help a lunar-linux user to produce their own with updated contents? With all of that failing, is this post http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar-dev/2009-September/006906.html still accurate? Thanks, --Richard From cesarlimap at gmail.com Sun Jun 13 01:15:58 2010 From: cesarlimap at gmail.com (cesar l.) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 20:15:58 -0300 Subject: ISO status In-Reply-To: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> References: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> Message-ID: Hi, I've needed to install recently and it's not accurate anymore. I cannot precise now what steps are not working. e2fsprogs, libusb, hal, udev and/or lvm2/device-mapper... Some of these, I think. I've tried the following steps and come back to the previous ones later. On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Richard B. Pyne wrote: > Since it has been 18 months + since the last ISO release, is there any plan > to release a new ISO in the near future? Failing that, is there any > documentation that could help a lunar-linux user to produce their own with > updated contents? > > With all of that failing, is this post > http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar-dev/2009-September/006906.htmlstill accurate? > > Thanks, > > --Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar > -- Cesar Lima -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcovandergrient at alice.nl Sun Jun 13 06:02:25 2010 From: marcovandergrient at alice.nl (marco van der grient) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:02:25 +0200 Subject: ISO status In-Reply-To: References: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> Message-ID: <4C145851.6070402@alice.nl> I did a recent install, did NOT followed this guide the second time and everything went well. Only udev (157) will need re-compiling the kernel since it complaining about it: do not use CONFIG_SYSF and CONFIG_SYSFSV2 in your kernel for this! Then you should be safe. Oh, on my machine the installer give some input/output errors on starting up, but there where harmless. Have fun. On 06/13/2010 01:15 AM, cesar l. wrote: > Hi, I've needed to install recently and it's not accurate anymore. > I cannot precise now what steps are not working. > e2fsprogs, libusb, hal, udev and/or lvm2/device-mapper... Some of these, > I think. > > I've tried the following steps and come back to the previous ones later. > > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Richard B. Pyne > wrote: > > Since it has been 18 months + since the last ISO release, is there > any plan to release a new ISO in the near future? Failing that, is > there any documentation that could help a lunar-linux user to > produce their own with updated contents? > > With all of that failing, is this post > http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar-dev/2009-September/006906.html > still accurate? > > Thanks, > > --Richard > > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar > > > > > -- > Cesar Lima > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar From marcovandergrient at alice.nl Sun Jun 13 12:25:11 2010 From: marcovandergrient at alice.nl (marco van der grient) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:25:11 +0200 Subject: chromium > chmod 777 /dev/shm In-Reply-To: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> References: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> Message-ID: <4C14B207.2010406@alice.nl> Hi there Lunar Linux, Is there a elegant way to omit the bug in chromium? I have to do a chmod 777 /dev/shm/ every time I boot LL. I thought about fstab, but do not know the right settings, anyone? Marco - The Nteherlands From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 13 18:27:36 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 18:27:36 +0200 Subject: ISO status In-Reply-To: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> References: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> Message-ID: <5d3f517c943419a7504812985a0db605.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> > Since it has been 18 months + since the last ISO release, is there any > plan to release a new ISO in the near future? Failing that, is there any > documentation that could help a lunar-linux user to produce their own > with updated contents? Ratler was working on this, and a beta was mentioned on the #lunar irc channel, but I'm afraid I don't have the URL. I didn't download it. > With all of that failing, is this post > http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar-dev/2009-September/006906.html > still accurate? It looks like there was only a relatively short window in which some of the key modules were out of sync and those extra steps were required. After I posted that guide, various others on #lunar reported that they had installed using the basic "man lfirsttime" instructions, and had not needed the extra steps at all. I shall post a similar followup to that article, so the thread is complete. Cheers Duncan / engelsman From akelling at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 03:15:33 2010 From: akelling at gmail.com (Drew Kelling) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:15:33 -0400 Subject: ISO status In-Reply-To: <5d3f517c943419a7504812985a0db605.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <4C13FAE0.6080208@kinfolk.org> <5d3f517c943419a7504812985a0db605.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <201006132115.34424.akelling@gmail.com> Latest beta iso's can be found here http://stderr.eu/files/lunar/ On Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:27:36 pm Duncan Gibson wrote: > > Since it has been 18 months + since the last ISO release, is there any > > plan to release a new ISO in the near future? Failing that, is there any > > documentation that could help a lunar-linux user to produce their own > > with updated contents? > > Ratler was working on this, and a beta was mentioned on the #lunar irc > channel, but I'm afraid I don't have the URL. I didn't download it. > > > With all of that failing, is this post > > http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/lunar-dev/2009-September/006906.html > > still accurate? > > It looks like there was only a relatively short window in which some of > the key modules were out of sync and those extra steps were required. > > After I posted that guide, various others on #lunar reported that they > had installed using the basic "man lfirsttime" instructions, and had not > needed the extra steps at all. > > I shall post a similar followup to that article, so the thread is complete. > > Cheers > Duncan / engelsman > > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar From sirocco at gmx.fr Tue Jun 15 23:23:37 2010 From: sirocco at gmx.fr (Guillaume) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:23:37 +0200 Subject: VirtualBox FIX Message-ID: <20100615232337.09a4667a@gnux> Hi, I'm unable to compile the last version of VirtualBox : /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/include/iprt/asm-amd64-x86.h:490: error: 'asm' operand has impossible constraints kmk[2]: *** [/usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/out/linux.x86/release/obj/tstInlineAsmPIC/tstInlineAsm.o] Error 1 The failing command: @g++ ... blah, blah, blah ... /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/out/linux.x86/release/obj/tstInlineAsmPIC/tstInlineAsm.o /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/src/VBox/Runtime/testcase/tstInlineAsm.cpp I see a patch for gcc-4.5 in the BUILD file but I'm using gcc-4.4 In order to get VirtualBox compile with my gcc-4.4 I did the following change : diff a/virtual/VirtualBox b/virtual/VirtualBox --- a/virtual/VirtualBox/BUILD 2010-06-15 22:41:32.000000000 +0200 +++ b/virtual/VirtualBox/BUILD 2010-06-15 22:52:35.000000000 +0200 @@ -2,6 +2,8 @@ patch_it $SOURCE_CACHE/$SOURCE2 1 && + echo "VBOX_WITH_TESTCASES =" > LocalConfig.kmk && + # Disable qt3 sedit s at WITH_QT3=1 at WITH_QT3=0@ configure && As VirtualBox is in the moonbase, it should work for some users, so I didn't lvu submitted this patch. If someone need it ... :) Guillaume From dennisveatch at bellsouth.net Wed Jun 16 02:29:10 2010 From: dennisveatch at bellsouth.net (Dennis Veatch) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:29:10 -0400 Subject: VirtualBox FIX In-Reply-To: <20100615232337.09a4667a@gnux> References: <20100615232337.09a4667a@gnux> Message-ID: <201006152029.10188.dennisveatch@bellsouth.net> On Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:23:37 pm Guillaume wrote: > Hi, > > I'm unable to compile the last version of VirtualBox : > > /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/include/iprt/asm-amd64-x86.h:490: error: > 'asm' operand has impossible constraints kmk[2]: *** > [/usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/out/linux.x86/release/obj/tstInlineAsmPIC/t > stInlineAsm.o] Error 1 The failing command: > @g++ ... blah, blah, blah ... > /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/out/linux.x86/release/obj/tstInlineAsmPIC/ts > tInlineAsm.o > /usr/src/VirtualBox-3.2.4_OSE/src/VBox/Runtime/testcase/tstInlineAsm.cpp > > > I see a patch for gcc-4.5 in the BUILD file but I'm using gcc-4.4 > In order to get VirtualBox compile with my gcc-4.4 I did the following > change : > > > diff a/virtual/VirtualBox b/virtual/VirtualBox > --- a/virtual/VirtualBox/BUILD 2010-06-15 22:41:32.000000000 +0200 > +++ b/virtual/VirtualBox/BUILD 2010-06-15 22:52:35.000000000 +0200 > @@ -2,6 +2,8 @@ > > patch_it $SOURCE_CACHE/$SOURCE2 1 && > > + echo "VBOX_WITH_TESTCASES =" > LocalConfig.kmk && > + > # Disable qt3 > sedit s at WITH_QT3=1 at WITH_QT3=0@ configure && > > > As VirtualBox is in the moonbase, it should work for some users, so I > didn't lvu submitted this patch. If someone need it ... :) > > Guillaume Thanks for finding that. Had the same issue here on two boxes. It has been added to the BUILD. -- Dennis Veatch From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Jun 18 12:35:42 2010 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer at lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: weekly news - 20100618 Message-ID: <20100618103542.D01C09B21C@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! Here's the latest weekly news edition! ===================================================================== ===================================================================== New modules: (2) kmplayer-0.11.2b: MPlayer frontend for KDE varnish-2.1.2: high-performance HTTP accelerator Removed modules: (2) Digest-SHA kmplayer4 New versions: (41) NVIDIA : 195.36.24 -> 195.36.31 NVIDIA-beta : 190.42 -> 256.29 abiword : 2.8.5 -> 2.8.6 ardour : 2.8.7 -> 2.8.10 bind : 9.7.0-P2 -> 9.7.1 bind-utils : 9.7.0-P2 -> 9.7.1 bluefish : 2.0.0 -> 2.0.1 codeblocks : 8.02 -> 10.05 cups : 1.4.3 -> 1.4.4 curl : 7.20.1 -> 7.21.0 dbmail : 2.2.12 -> 2.2.15 dhcpcd : 5.2.2 -> 5.2.5 dnsmasq : 2.53 -> 2.55 doxygen : 1.6.3 -> 1.7.0 eric4 : 4.4.4a -> 4.4.5 ffmpegthumbnailer : 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2 gnumeric : 1.10.5 -> 1.10.6 iproute2 : 2.6.33 -> 2.6.34 john : 1.7.5 -> 1.7.6 k3b : 1.92.0 -> 1.93.0 konq-plugins : 4.3.1 -> 4.4.0 ktorrent : 4.0.0 -> 4.0.1 leafnode : 1.11.7 -> 1.11.8 libburn : 0.8.0 -> 0.8.2 libisoburn : 0.5.0 -> 0.5.8 libktorrent : 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 libspectre : 0.2.4 -> 0.2.6 logilab-common : 0.50.1 -> 0.50.3 mac : 3.99-u4-b5 -> 3.99-u4-b5-s6 monodevelop : 2.2.2 -> 2.4 netatalk : 2.1.1 -> 2.1.2 ntfs-3g : 2010.5.16 -> 2010.5.22 pango : 1.28.0 -> 1.28.1 pylint : 0.21.0 -> 0.21.1 scribus : 1.3.5.1 -> 1.3.7 tiff : 3.9.2 -> 3.9.4 transmission : 1.93 -> 2.00 vde2 : 2.2.2 -> 2.2.3 warzone2100 : 2.3.0 -> 2.3.1 xfce4-taskmanager : 0.4.1 -> 1.0.0 xterm : 258 -> 259 ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From marekpasnikowski at interia.eu Sat Jun 19 10:17:36 2010 From: marekpasnikowski at interia.eu (Marek Pasnikowski) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:17:36 +0000 Subject: Hello world Message-ID: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Hi! My name is Marek, I am 18 years old, I live in Poland and my previous 2 years were an exciting journey into Linux world. I tasted all major DE's (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox) and many different distros, like Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, Debian, Arch and, lastly, Gentoo. About a week ago I discovered Lunar. I immediately fell in love with this distribution. Prior to discovery I always dreamt of a Linux, which I can easily compile. Gentoo didn't do the task, because it's so complicated. I can see, that Lunar is not doing well lately. Mirrors are not working correctly, Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Please, don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. I can help write wiki pages, first. I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. In addition to the amazing package manager, automatic hardware configuration tool should be created. This would give Lunar an enormous advantage, as all source-based distros require manual configuration. Who still wants to manualy edit text files to make his box run without problems? I hope I didn't come too late... Goodbye for now, I don't feel like talking right now. (The Songs of Distant Earth happen to be quite depressing, when played on tiny laptop speakers, instead of just calming). ;( -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gra dla duzych chlopcow. http://linkint.pl/f2717 From ratler at lunar-linux.org Sat Jun 19 11:30:04 2010 From: ratler at lunar-linux.org (Stefan Wold) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:30:04 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: <1276939804.12174.24.camel@localhost> On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 08:17 +0000, Marek Pasnikowski wrote: > Hi! > My name is Marek, I am 18 years old, I live in Poland and my previous 2 years > were an exciting journey into Linux world. I tasted all major DE's (GNOME, KDE, > XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox) and many different distros, like Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, > Debian, Arch and, lastly, Gentoo. About a week ago I discovered Lunar. I > immediately fell in love with this distribution. Prior to discovery I always > dreamt of a Linux, which I can easily compile. Gentoo didn't do the task, > because it's so complicated. Welcome to Lunar! Glad you like it. > I can see, that Lunar is not doing well lately. Mirrors are not working > correctly, Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Please, > don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. We are far from dead, and we won't leave anytime soon. Things are in motion to improve the current state of Lunar. New ISO, improve documentation, improve functionality etc. We are a small crew and most of us work on Lunar in our spare time. > I can help write wiki > pages, first. I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. In addition > to the amazing package manager, automatic hardware configuration tool should be > created. This would give Lunar an enormous advantage, as all source-based > distros require manual configuration. Who still wants to manualy edit text files > to make his box run without problems? Help is always appreciated. We try to encourage our userbase to assist us either writing new modules, updating modules or writing documentation. > I hope I didn't come too late... Not at all. Please join us on IRC, channel #lunar on freenode.org. Most of the developers are active there. -- Sincerely Stefan Wold Lunar Linux developer - PGP public key 6E810F05 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had some ideas about how to change this from happening or at least to take notice of that faster than today. However. What you can do is: if this happens, drop in on IRC (irc.freenode.net, #lunar) and leave a notice "package xyz with mirror xyz doesn't download here - anyone else same problems?". Usually someone is around who could fix this (you can fix this yourself by creating a zlocal module - information about this should be in the wiki, just copy the original module to zlocal, edit the DETAILS file and change the SOURCE_URL to a working mirror (or if its Sourceforge, change the sforge mirror in lunar -> option -> software mirrors -> sforge, and try again) and if you wan't to contribute even more to lunar, you could do "lvu submit modulename" to submit your "fixed" module. > Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Please, > don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. I can help write wiki > pages, first. I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. Drop in on IRC and talk to Striker - He's doing the website related Stuff. The Forum is down for specific reasons, he might tell you more. Just out of interest, which information are you missing in the wiki? > In addition > to the amazing package manager, automatic hardware configuration tool should be > created. This would give Lunar an enormous advantage, as all source-based > distros require manual configuration. Who still wants to manualy edit text files > to make his box run without problems? Hardware Detection is sometimes difficult, at least if you want it to work 100% correctly; however Lunar, as i understood, was made for experienced users (which probably don't need such features) and not for beginners (which would love such features). This doesnt mean your idea is bad - It's for sure on someone's todo-list, i just don't know about his/her priority :) > I hope I didn't come too late... > Goodbye for now, I don't feel like talking right now. (The Songs of Distant > Earth happen to be quite depressing, when played on tiny laptop speakers, > instead of just calming). ;( Lunar won't die and Lunar *is* active. > -- > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gra dla duzych chlopcow. > http://linkint.pl/f2717 > > _______________________________________________ > Lunar mailing list > Lunar at lunar-linux.org > http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/lunar -- Jean-Michel Bruenn From me at v4hn.de Sat Jun 19 12:06:17 2010 From: me at v4hn.de (v4hn) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:06:17 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: <20100619100617.GA5253@kuebelreiter> Hey Marek, On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 08:17:36AM +0000, Marek Pasnikowski wrote: > Hi! > My name is Marek, I am 18 years old, I live in Poland and my previous 2 years > were an exciting journey into Linux world. I tasted all major DE's (GNOME, KDE, > XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox) and many different distros, like Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, > Debian, Arch and, lastly, Gentoo. About a week ago I discovered Lunar. It's nice to watch the direction of your journey :) You've gone the same way so many fellows went before.. So... Welcome to the root ;) > I can see, that Lunar is not doing well lately. Mirrors are not working > correctly, Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Please, > don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. Are we dying?*puzzled* would be new to me... You should really visit #lunar sometimes(although it may take some time 'till others realize you've written something - so stay in there a couple of hours) Which mirrors are you talking about? You know of `lvu edit ` and `lvu submit `? The first one allows you to modify a module in the moonbase, the later one to submit it to an queue, where (most of the time ;)) developers are listening who apply your submission to moonbase if everything is fine. Feel free to contribute your changes this way. Which documentation are you missing - not that there would be much to document. There's `man lfirsttime` telling you about `lin`, `lrm`, `lvu`, `lunar` and there are a couple of interesting files in /var/*/lunar (shell scripts, log files, moonbase, dependency-files, ...), and there is /etc/lunar. That's everything a full installation knows about lunar I'd say, so why writing documentation of files everyone can read in a day..? Concerning the forum... afaik lunar doesn't attract a lot of people, who like Web2.0, so just stay with the mailinglist. There are few mails per week, but that doesn't imply nobody is listening. :) > I can help write wiki pages, first. Feel free to do so.. > I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. In addition > to the amazing package manager, automatic hardware configuration tool > should be created. This would give Lunar an enormous advantage, > as all source-based distros require manual configuration. > Who still wants to manualy edit text files > to make his box run without problems? We really should discuss this on IRC... > I hope I didn't come too late... I suppose I missed something, if you do.. v4hn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Sat Jun 19 13:39:59 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:39:59 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: > Hi! My name is Marek, I am 18 years old, I live in Poland... Hi Marek, welcome to Lunar! > I can see, that Lunar is not doing well lately. Mirrors are not working > correctly, Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Lunar is not dead, and in fact I think that Lunar does remarkably well to keep so up-to-date with most of the core packages when you consider that there are so few developers, all working in their spare time. I admit the non-core packages might need some attention... Which mirrors did you have problems with? The main Lunar mirrors, or URLs for specific package download and home pages? We all admit that the Wiki does need a bit of a clean-up, and update. Unfortunately, due to problems with vandalism/spam-bots in the past, most of the pages are now protected, so you need to ask in the #lunar IRC channel for someone [me] to unprotect them before edit. I know this sort of defeats the purpose of having a Wiki, but that's life. This is probably one reason why the Wiki is so out-of-date :-( Note that the Wiki is intended to offer Lunar specific information, and not general HOWTOs for specific packages that should have their own websites and info. We really don't have the manpower for that! Striker took the Forums off-line for some good technical reason that I don't remember, and probably also because they too had been hit by the spam-bots and took a lot of effort to keep clean. > Please, don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. Lunar isn't dead, and because it's a rolling distro we don't *need* to release ISOs on a six-monthly basis like others seem to do. Users can create/update/customize their own modules for their own systems if they need to without having to wait for the next ISO. The downside of that is that Lunar flies below the radar of DistroWatch and others so we don't get the publicity that would bring in new users and hence new developers. With more developers we *could* release more ISOs ... So you can already contribute by submitting any new/updated modules as described in http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Module_Submission > I can help write wiki pages, first. The first thing to do is create a user page on the wiki and outline what you have in mind... > I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. Well that's great: share your vision on your Wiki page so we can see how well that fits with everyone else's ideas, and with the resources that we have. > I hope I didn't come too late... We're still chugging along, but we can always use some extra help. Cheers Duncan / engelsman From zbiggy at o2.pl Sat Jun 19 18:53:19 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:53:19 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: <201006191853.32381.zbiggy@o2.pl> > Hi! Siemka, > My name is Marek, I am 18 years old, I live in Poland and my previous 2 years > were an exciting journey into Linux world. I tasted all major DE's (GNOME, KDE, > XFCE, LXDE, Fluxbox) and many different distros, like Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora, > Debian, Arch and, lastly, Gentoo. About a week ago I discovered Lunar. I > immediately fell in love with this distribution. Prior to discovery I always > dreamt of a Linux, which I can easily compile. Gentoo didn't do the task, > because it's so complicated. Good choice. Lunar Linux is the most Linux compatible Linux distribution. We do not use custom patches if do not have to, so you see and use applications as their authors created them. We also use new processor capabilities so we run faster than other distros built for i386 or i686. We also keep our modules built with additional options so applications have more capabilities than default builds. > I can see, that Lunar is not doing well lately. Mirrors are not working > correctly, Wiki lacks most basic documentation, Forums are offline. Please, > don't die, don't leave me now, when I discovered you. If you find a bug or problem in Lunar always share your finding with us. If we do not know about a bug how we can fix it? :) Mirrors sometimes do not work. Servers have maintenance break sometimes. That is why we put few of them in queue in case one does not work. To activate the queue type in lunar in terminal and in menu choose: Option->Download Options->Exhaustive mirrors and turn on: [*] Enable: exhaustive mirror testing This way if default server does not respond Lunar will download from another one. Lunar does not die. We are still here and contributing. About 6 module updates ever day. Security updates come in in less than 24h. Look at distrowatch to see we are up to date: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lunar choose all tracked packets (206) [Refresh] to see more. Colors mean: Green = latest official release Red = latest beta (more recent than official) Black= older than latest official release Some versions in Lunar are Black not because we are lazy but sometimes a module must be older to not break compilation of other modules which depends on them. For example: db (5.0.21) we still use latest 4.x version: 4.8.30 because there is no app which uses db 5.x features. db 5.x is not compatible with db 4.x so no reason to update. Of course every day appears new releases and sometimes we did not updated yet some modules. If you see any old module you can always ask if it was not updated because of lack of time or there is an important reason for keeping it old. Yes ISO is very old. But usually because of lack of interest of developers. Everybody is focused on moonbase. I installed my Lunar around year 2003 and keep doing lunar update once a week since that time. Others do the same. So nobody is encouraged to work on ISO. > I can help write wiki > pages, first. I also have a vision, as to what Lunar should become. In addition > to the amazing package manager, automatic hardware configuration tool should be > created. This would give Lunar an enormous advantage, as all source-based > distros require manual configuration. Who still wants to manualy edit text files > to make his box run without problems? Very well. Our community is very small and developers even smaller. Any good help is wanted. Share with us your findings, good or bad. I have in my mind script which will take care of automatic installing drivers but have not time to code it. The same goes to adsl modem configuration for popular modems in Poland like Speedtouch 330 and crappy ZXDSL 852. I also plan to add selinux but this is another big piece of work to be done. You know all of us are working somewhere and develop Lunar in spare time. This is main reason for lack of time. Main priorities are keeping Lunar working, secure and up to date. New features are at the end of list. Mailing lists, forums, web page or irc may seem to be dead but it is preferred to do developing Lunar than talking. > I hope I didn't come too late... Gain some American optimism. According to distrowatch Lunar was born in US. In Poland like everything else even global economic crisis failed so I can understand your worries :) http://demotywatory.pl/231598/Polska the caption says: Poland - here even worldwide crisis failed. P.S. I will send you pm files and how to make Lunar talking Polish. have a nice day, Zbigniew Luszpinski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 4595 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zbiggy at o2.pl Sun Jun 20 00:20:27 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:20:27 +0200 Subject: The removal of mplayerplug-in. Message-ID: <201006200020.27334.zbiggy@o2.pl> Hello, I removed mplayerplug-in from moonbase because it will not compile anymore on firefox 3.5+ and seamonkey 2+. Using mplayerplug-in already compiled will make current browsers unstable. To make it compatible with current browsers it needs major rewrite. The author of mplayerplug-in dropped it and now works on gecko-mediaplayer which is in our moonbase. This is direct and recommended replacement for mplayerplug-in. have a nice day, Zbigniew Luszpinski From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 20 10:24:35 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 10:24:35 +0200 Subject: The removal of mplayerplug-in. In-Reply-To: <201006200020.27334.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <201006200020.27334.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <520464dc4980841d7fed54e150fa1acf.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> > I removed mplayerplug-in from moonbase because it will not compile anymore > on firefox 3.5+ and seamonkey 2+. > Using mplayerplug-in already compiled will make current browsers unstable. > To make it compatible with current browsers it needs major rewrite. > The author of mplayerplug-in dropped it and now works on gecko-mediaplayer > which is in our moonbase. > This is direct and recommended replacement for mplayerplug-in. I think we should start a policy of not removing modules directly, but moving them first to zdeprecated for a month, and only then removing them. Anyone who is subscribed to the mailing list, or who runs lunar update at least once a month, will see that the module has been moved, and will have a chance to lrm it manually. Luckily I don't have mplayerplug-in installed, but I've had some problems in the past when I've started a lunar update and found that a module has disappeared. At that point the old moonbase has been wiped, so it can be tricky to clean up properly. Cheers Duncan / engelsman From zbiggy at o2.pl Sun Jun 20 12:47:22 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 12:47:22 +0200 Subject: The removal of mplayerplug-in. In-Reply-To: <520464dc4980841d7fed54e150fa1acf.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <201006200020.27334.zbiggy@o2.pl> <520464dc4980841d7fed54e150fa1acf.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <201006201247.30161.zbiggy@o2.pl> > I think we should start a policy of not removing modules directly, > but moving them first to zdeprecated for a month, and only then > removing them. Anyone who is subscribed to the mailing list, or > who runs lunar update at least once a month, will see that the > module has been moved, and will have a chance to lrm it manually. I agree with you that modules should be moved to zdeprecated. I think zdeprecated should be another, optional moonbase without time limits like 1 month. Those who use modules in zdeprecated should be allowed to use them as long as they want. If anyone is willing to keep maintenance of them that's ok. For example kde3 is worth maintaining for because it still compiles and works ok. Actually I was using it and maintaining it when it was removed from moonbase. So I'm forced to use kde4 I do not like because it is not well designed yet. However if there is a module which does not compile with current modules on which it depends, it will be not maintained by it's author, what's more already installed version can cause instability and crashes of current web browsers - this is dead meat - the only right thing to do is to remove it. You can not fix mplayerplug-in to work with current browsers. mplayerplug-in's author said it requires major rewrite and this would take him one full week of work just only to make it working with current web browsers. For him this is waste of time. That is why he recommends his new project: gecko-mplayer which we already have in moonbase. > Luckily I don't have mplayerplug-in installed, but I've had some > problems in the past when I've started a lunar update and found > that a module has disappeared. At that point the old moonbase has > been wiped, so it can be tricky to clean up properly. I had this recently with kde3 which disappeared. I was using it and never planned to go to kde4 because I do not like it. I wake up one morning and WTF I do not have desktop. First I thought moonbase screwed up but then visited web git interface to find kde3 assassin. I understand removing unfixable, dead module which crashes apps but killing kde3 which is still alive - this is digital murder. I'm far away from removing modules if they compile and correctly cooperate with others (like kde3). I only say no to dead meat without a single chance to bring it back to live (mplayerplug-in). have a nice day, Zbigniew Luszpinski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From my last installation with newest ISO I remember that I couldn't compile kernel myself (when chosen, a few lines of text would print in terminal and got hidden by kernel installation menu immediately); later, when I wanted to re-check chosen font, installer forgot all my settings. I noticed this one after succesful DE installation, so now I am left with generic hostnames etc. Wiki should be filled with some info about hardware configuration. First I wanted to write some info regarding my hardware, as I still have to do this. I have some problems with my hardware as I don't know, what framework is used in Lunar to configure it. I mean, should I try tips working for Gentoo or Debian or whatever? "Which documentation are you missing - not that there would be much to document. There's `man lfirsttime` telling you about `lin`, `lrm`, `lvu`, `lunar` and there are a couple of interesting files in /var/*/lunar (shell scripts, log files, moonbase, dependency-files, ...), and there is /etc/lunar. That's everything a full installation knows about lunar I'd say, so why writing documentation of files everyone can read in a day..?" I had no problems with basic installation, thanks to existing documentation files, but it is not enough to get me through other aspects of configuration. Now I am running basic system + kde4 + chosen dependencies + flashplugin + opera, and I have no idea, which graphic driver is powering this. I can't run compositing (I don't really need it, but still miss it). Other thing is, that "search" field in Lunar Modules site (which gives impression of engine searching the requested modules) doesn't work at all, and I don't feel like sieving all 3500 modules in search of Intel GMA driver. Also I have no idea, how to make KDE ask for password, when changing system wide settings, so I can save them. Such things should be pointed in Wiki. Even if it means copying text from other distros' Wikis. I, and many others, treat Wiki pages as first info source. It should be there. I, for instance, don't like documentation in form of example files, as it can be very confusing (that's why I resigned from Gentoo, where I had no idea, how to make my Broadcom wireless run with KNetworkManager. So, my first proposition is such: 1. I kindly ask You for help configuring my hardware. 2. I write it down in Wiki. 3. I learn ways the system gets configured. 4. I continue to fill Wiki up. I mentioned, that I will buy a netbook. I will treat it as experimental machine, where I will try to build ultimate KDE desktop. I think this will give me great deal of experience. I am really looking forward to it. Anyway, I still find it amazing, how fast I got to the core. It implies some lack of technical knowledge about the system (mainly about the system files), but now I feel that I would be able to administrate any given Linux distro with decent documentation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Auta kilka tysi??cy z??otych taniej? Przebieraj w??r??d tysi??cy og??osze??! Sprawdz >>> http://linkint.pl/f2724 From zbiggy at o2.pl Sun Jun 20 21:25:07 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:25:07 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006201338.49485.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> <201006201338.49485.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: <201006202125.20941.zbiggy@o2.pl> > This time I will > monitor the installation and report bugs. Very well. > From my last installation with newest > ISO I remember that I couldn't compile kernel myself (when chosen, a few lines > of text would print in terminal and got hidden by kernel installation menu > immediately); I remember long time ago I encountered similar bug. But it was fixed later. Try the newest iso 1.6.5-beta2: http://stderr.eu/files/lunar/ > later, when I wanted to re-check chosen font, installer forgot all > my settings. I noticed this one after succesful DE installation, so now I am > left with generic hostnames etc. use lnet and lunar tools to set this again. > Wiki should be filled with some info about hardware configuration. First I > wanted to write some info regarding my hardware, as I still have to do this. I > have some problems with my hardware as I don't know, what framework is used in > Lunar to configure it. I mean, should I try tips working for Gentoo or Debian or > whatever? If another distro works on hardware you have Lunar will work too. For network config you have lnet tool to set ip, gateway, dns. If you do not know what hardware you have use precompiled kernel. At least at install time and first boot. You can always compile your kernel later after successful booting lunar. Then your compiled kernel will appear in grub menu as second choice. If you use settings in kernel which do not perfectly match your hardware you will end up with unbootable machine. This would be very frustrating first meeting with Lunar which makes no sense. The best what you can do is to choose precompiled kernel for desktop when installer asks you to choose one. Then boot installed Lunar and take some time to learn it better. Next read dmesg, lsmod, lspci, lsusb and /var/log/Xorg.0.log output to learn what hardware you have. Now you can try compiling kernel from sources and choose right options. If you end up with unbootable machine you can always come back to precompiled kernel. In Lunar drivers are automatically detected and loaded on boot. Read the outputs I told you above to learn what drivers are in use. Of course there are some 3rd party drivers which need to be manually installed. If you show me the outputs I may help you with choosing 3rd party drivers. Gentoo, Debian or whatever other distro has proprietary tools which typical are for such distro. On Lunar if you have Linux knowledge you can do everything. We have clean system. People who use Lunar has great Linux knowledge. That is why we can manage any Linux. If any tip does not use proprietary tools it will work on Lunar. > Now I am running basic system + kde4 + chosen dependencies + flashplugin + > opera, and I have no idea, which graphic driver is powering this. I can't run Probably vesa which is installed by default and works on any machine. Look at lspci and fresh /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out. > compositing (I don't really need it, but still miss it). Other thing is, that In kde4 compositing effects are disabled by default. You can enable them this way: PL K->Ustawienia->Ustawienia systemowe->Pulpit->W??cz efekty pulpitu EN: K->Settings->system settings->Desktop->enable desktop effects. I can help you with Lunar problems but this tip can be found in kde manual or easy discovered. > "search" field in Lunar Modules site (which gives impression of engine searching > the requested modules) doesn't work at all, and I don't feel like sieving all > 3500 modules in search of Intel GMA driver. Also I have no idea, how to make KDE All modules are stored in /var/lib/lunar/moonbase directory. You can search it using mc or find/grep command. You can read what a module does by reading DETAILS file in module's directory. Or lvu info The module name you are looking for is: xf86-video-intel > ask for password, when changing system wide settings, so I can save them. Such > things should be pointed in Wiki. Even if it means copying text from other In kde3 there was such feature. kde4 does not have such option yet. Use root account to configure system wide settings. > distros' Wikis. I, and many others, treat Wiki pages as first info source. It > should be there. I, for instance, don't like documentation in form of example > files, as it can be very confusing (that's why I resigned from Gentoo, where I > had no idea, how to make my Broadcom wireless run with KNetworkManager. We are too small community to make wiki for kde or other tools. kde has its own wiki. If you have problem with kde read kde wiki and docs or use F1 key to open manual, Co to jest?/Waht's this? button for small help. You have also Help/Pomoc menu in every kde window. In terminal there are info or man commands with help. > So, my first proposition is such: > 1. I kindly ask You for help configuring my hardware. No problem send outputs and I will help you. > 2. I write it down in Wiki. Thanks. It would be better to write something more generic: Just note the questions you have then answers you collected from us or the Internet. Then write wiki. Most of our users looks to be Linux gurus so we usually do not know/can not imagine what obstacles newbies have. > 3. I learn ways the system gets configured. Very well. People here usually will get mad when someone asks questions easy to answer using google or http://www.linuxquestions.org You question regarding enabling compositing jumps into this category. Such questions may end up with RTFM or ask uncle google responses. > 4. I continue to fill Wiki up. Very well. We are usually focused on developing modules so docs are not nice thing to do. I think the most important thing is to collect all obstacles you found using lunar. Then fill in answers you learned. If you find any bugs we will try to fix them. > I mentioned, that I will buy a netbook. I will treat it as experimental machine, > where I will try to build ultimate KDE desktop. I think this will give me great > deal of experience. I am really looking forward to it. Anyway, I still find it > amazing, how fast I got to the core. It implies some lack of technical knowledge > about the system (mainly about the system files), but now I feel that I would be > able to administrate any given Linux distro with decent documentation. Lunar is very Linux compatible. This means if any tip on net does not use distro specific tools it will work on Lunar. At the beginning you may find it very uncomfortable not having any beautiful creators or configurators. Later if you survive you will understand the power of Lunar is simplicity and compatibility. have a nice day, Zbigniew Luszpinski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Now all we have to do is to modify the date regularly :-) Cheers Duncan / engelsman From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Sun Jun 20 21:37:39 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:37:39 +0200 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006202125.20941.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> <201006201338.49485.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> <201006202125.20941.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <5354ab2bc733868f510082d5b71faa8e.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Marek: >> 2. I write it down in Wiki. zbiggy: > Thanks. It would be better to write something more generic: > Just note the questions you have then answers you collected from > us or the Internet. Then write wiki. Most of our users looks to be > Linux gurus so we usually do not know/can not imagine what obstacles > newbies have. It would be really good if you could write a User Report on your experience of installing and configuring, because as zbiggy says, most of us have already done it several times and don't remember. See mine under http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/User_Reports Cheers Duncan / engelsman PS. You can search the moonbase using 'lvu search keyword' From marekpasnikowski at interia.eu Mon Jun 21 10:50:19 2010 From: marekpasnikowski at interia.eu (Marek Pasnikowski) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:50:19 +0000 Subject: Hello world In-Reply-To: <201006202125.20941.zbiggy@o2.pl> References: <201006190817.37033.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> <201006201338.49485.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> <201006202125.20941.zbiggy@o2.pl> Message-ID: <201006210850.19862.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Hey, I am not THAT bad. Some of those tips I had known already. I asked about password request in KDE config tool because I couldn't set ntp as default service. But now I experienced enlightenment. I know the way the system works! :) I think it's quite similar to Arch. Now I know what to do - compile newest kernel (precompiled doesn't work with xf86-video-intel due to some wrong kernel setting), install ntp service and load some more software. I am only unsure about resizing partition. Two of them are too small and another two with Kubuntu are no more needed. Which QT software would do the best job of rearranging my HDD? I don't like GParted, as it always messed my partitions, where some disk scratches are, when it was supposed to stop I/O test. GParted obviously doesn't do the job, which is said to be it's most important feature. -.- I'll start writing Wiki for 30 minutes every day. Is there any tool for fast Wiki formatting? I would have to learn the syntax, which I would like to avoid, if possible. Some long time ago (in Windows times) I searched for it, but found nothing. :/ One last thing I would like to learn fast, is init scripts management. Is there any manual for it in system? Wiki returns no satisfying results. Dnia niedziela 20 czerwca 2010 o 19:25:07 Zbigniew Luszpinski napisa?(a): > > This time I will > > monitor the installation and report bugs. > > Very well. > > > From my last installation with newest > > ISO I remember that I couldn't compile kernel myself (when chosen, a few > > lines of text would print in terminal and got hidden by kernel > > installation menu immediately); > > I remember long time ago I encountered similar bug. But it was fixed later. > Try the newest iso 1.6.5-beta2: > http://stderr.eu/files/lunar/ > > > later, when I wanted to re-check chosen font, installer forgot all > > my settings. I noticed this one after succesful DE installation, so now I > > am left with generic hostnames etc. > > use lnet and lunar tools to set this again. > > > Wiki should be filled with some info about hardware configuration. First > > I wanted to write some info regarding my hardware, as I still have to do > > this. I have some problems with my hardware as I don't know, what > > framework is used in Lunar to configure it. I mean, should I try tips > > working for Gentoo or Debian or whatever? > > If another distro works on hardware you have Lunar will work too. > For network config you have lnet tool to set ip, gateway, dns. > If you do not know what hardware you have use precompiled kernel. > At least at install time and first boot. > You can always compile your kernel later after successful booting lunar. > Then your compiled kernel will appear in grub menu as second choice. > If you use settings in kernel which do not perfectly match your hardware > you will end up with unbootable machine. This would be very frustrating > first meeting with Lunar which makes no sense. The best what you can do is > to choose precompiled kernel for desktop when installer asks you to choose > one. Then boot installed Lunar and take some time to learn it better. > Next read dmesg, lsmod, lspci, lsusb and /var/log/Xorg.0.log output to > learn what hardware you have. Now you can try compiling kernel from > sources and choose right options. If you end up with unbootable machine > you can always come back to precompiled kernel. > > In Lunar drivers are automatically detected and loaded on boot. > Read the outputs I told you above to learn what drivers are in use. > Of course there are some 3rd party drivers which need to be manually > installed. If you show me the outputs I may help you with choosing 3rd > party drivers. > > Gentoo, Debian or whatever other distro has proprietary tools which typical > are for such distro. On Lunar if you have Linux knowledge you can do > everything. We have clean system. People who use Lunar has great Linux > knowledge. That is why we can manage any Linux. If any tip does not use > proprietary tools it will work on Lunar. > > > Now I am running basic system + kde4 + chosen dependencies + flashplugin > > + opera, and I have no idea, which graphic driver is powering this. I > > can't run > > Probably vesa which is installed by default and works on any machine. > Look at lspci and fresh /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out. > > > compositing (I don't really need it, but still miss it). Other thing is, > > that > > In kde4 compositing effects are disabled by default. You can enable them > this way: PL > K->Ustawienia->Ustawienia systemowe->Pulpit->W??cz efekty pulpitu > EN: > K->Settings->system settings->Desktop->enable desktop effects. > > I can help you with Lunar problems but this tip can be found in kde manual > or easy discovered. > > > "search" field in Lunar Modules site (which gives impression of engine > > searching the requested modules) doesn't work at all, and I don't feel > > like sieving all 3500 modules in search of Intel GMA driver. Also I have > > no idea, how to make KDE > > All modules are stored in /var/lib/lunar/moonbase directory. > You can search it using mc or find/grep command. > You can read what a module does by reading DETAILS file in module's > directory. Or lvu info > > The module name you are looking for is: xf86-video-intel > > > ask for password, when changing system wide settings, so I can save them. > > Such things should be pointed in Wiki. Even if it means copying text > > from other > > In kde3 there was such feature. kde4 does not have such option yet. > Use root account to configure system wide settings. > > > distros' Wikis. I, and many others, treat Wiki pages as first info > > source. It should be there. I, for instance, don't like documentation in > > form of example files, as it can be very confusing (that's why I > > resigned from Gentoo, where I had no idea, how to make my Broadcom > > wireless run with KNetworkManager. > > We are too small community to make wiki for kde or other tools. kde has its > own wiki. If you have problem with kde read kde wiki and docs or use F1 > key to open manual, Co to jest?/Waht's this? button for small help. You > have also Help/Pomoc menu in every kde window. In terminal there are info > or man commands with help. > > > So, my first proposition is such: > > 1. I kindly ask You for help configuring my hardware. > > No problem send outputs and I will help you. > > > 2. I write it down in Wiki. > > Thanks. It would be better to write something more generic: > Just note the questions you have then answers you collected from us or the > Internet. Then write wiki. Most of our users looks to be Linux gurus so we > usually do not know/can not imagine what obstacles newbies have. > > > 3. I learn ways the system gets configured. > > Very well. People here usually will get mad when someone asks questions > easy to answer using google or http://www.linuxquestions.org > You question regarding enabling compositing jumps into this category. > Such questions may end up with RTFM or ask uncle google responses. > > > 4. I continue to fill Wiki up. > > Very well. We are usually focused on developing modules so docs are not > nice thing to do. I think the most important thing is to collect all > obstacles you found using lunar. Then fill in answers you learned. If you > find any bugs we will try to fix them. > > > I mentioned, that I will buy a netbook. I will treat it as experimental > > machine, where I will try to build ultimate KDE desktop. I think this > > will give me great deal of experience. I am really looking forward to > > it. Anyway, I still find it amazing, how fast I got to the core. It > > implies some lack of technical knowledge about the system (mainly about > > the system files), but now I feel that I would be able to administrate > > any given Linux distro with decent documentation. > > Lunar is very Linux compatible. This means if any tip on net does not use > distro specific tools it will work on Lunar. At the beginning you may find > it very uncomfortable not having any beautiful creators or configurators. > Later if you survive you will understand the power of Lunar is simplicity > and compatibility. > > have a nice day, > Zbigniew Luszpinski ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kup wlasne mieszkanie za 72 tys. zl. Sprawdz najlepsze oferty >>> http://linkint.pl/f2723 From shazzer.farley at googlemail.com Mon Jun 21 13:47:20 2010 From: shazzer.farley at googlemail.com (sharon farley) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:20 +0100 Subject: Lunar install does not see External Hard Drive Message-ID: I'm trying to install Lunar to my External HD but said EHD is not available during the installation process. Is there any way that I can help the setup program to recognise my EHD??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message error: The name org.kde.kcontrol.kcmclock was not provided by any .service files" Will look at it deeper later - Lunar installs dbus files in wrong place. > I am only unsure about resizing partition. Two of them > are too small and another two with Kubuntu are no more needed. Which QT software > would do the best job of rearranging my HDD? I don't like GParted, as it always > messed my partitions, where some disk scratches are, when it was supposed to > stop I/O test. GParted obviously doesn't do the job, which is said to be it's > most important feature. -.- I never had any problems with gparted. You can use text mode tools to manage partitions. Ask uncle Google about: parted If you use lvm use lvm resize procedure There are others of course. > One last thing I would like to learn fast, is init scripts > management. Is there any manual for it in system? 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Auke From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Wed Jun 23 09:27:02 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:27:02 +0200 Subject: Lunar install does not see External Hard Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <632359d474a9a360bb2a904cab2a4162.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> > I'm trying to install Lunar to my External HD but said EHD is not > available during the installation process. > > Is there any way that I can help the setup program to recognise my EHD??? This is way out of my technical league, so I've never done this, and searching for 'installing linux on usb disk' would suggest that not many people have ever tried. Some distros have better support than others [*]. Note that these articles usually mean booting a "LiveCD" distro from a USB stick or thumb drive. The Lunar ISO can be used as a "LiveCD" for recovery purposes, but is really meant as an installation disk. Once you install the minimal system and reboot, you need to set up the system to meet your requirements for a server, desktop, etc. Unfortunately nobody has ever reported trying to install Lunar to be a bootable system from a USB disk, but that doesn't mean that it's not possible. Lunar is pretty flexible. Probably you will need a multi-stage process: 1. check that your bios supports booting from USB 2. create a virtual machine on your box and install lunar there. 3. build a kernel in the virtual machine that supports the USB 4. somehow migrate the virtual installation to the USB disk If you do manage to get it working, can you report back to us? Then we can put up some minimal instructions on the wiki for the next person. Good luck. Duncan / engelsman [*] Here's a selection: these may or may not be useful: http://www.novell.com/communities/node/4536/how-create-external-usb-bootable-linux-hard-drive-without-dual-boot http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207800392 http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-install-linux-usb-flash-drive From marekpasnikowski at interia.eu Wed Jun 23 11:03:10 2010 From: marekpasnikowski at interia.eu (Marek Pasnikowski) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:03:10 +0000 Subject: Lunar install does not see External Hard Drive In-Reply-To: <632359d474a9a360bb2a904cab2a4162.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <632359d474a9a360bb2a904cab2a4162.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <201006230903.10765.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> > Unfortunately nobody has ever reported trying to install Lunar to be > a bootable system from a USB disk, but that doesn't mean that it's not > possible. Lunar is pretty flexible. I tried once to boot Lunar from USB (exactly the first time, when I was used to other distros solutions). Some other newcomers probably would try to install Lunar from USB stick. This method has one advantage over CD - it is much faster, due to pendrives' higher data transmission speeds. I think it should be enlisted on "to-do" list somewhere in more distant future. -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kup wlasne mieszkanie za 72 tys. zl. Sprawdz najlepsze oferty >>> http://linkint.pl/f2723 From marekpasnikowski at interia.eu Wed Jun 23 11:41:23 2010 From: marekpasnikowski at interia.eu (Marek Pasnikowski) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:41:23 +0000 Subject: Wiki Message-ID: <201006230941.23808.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Yesterday I registered in Wiki system. I wanted to start writing, but couldn't find any "new article" button. Maybe that's for security reasons - that's OK. Now I want to share my idea of the first article. I want to write exhaustive explanation of every existing position in kernel configuration menu. I searched for similar work in the net, but found nothing like this. It would be very helpful for those, who compile their kernels. I myself have problems with understanding, what each position stands for in the system. What do You think about such a comprehensive guide? By the way: is there any automatic Lunar kernel generator (like genkernel for Gentoo)? -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Najlepsza wyszukiwarka tanich lotow! Sprawdz >>> http://linkint.pl/f2726 From duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl Wed Jun 23 22:59:36 2010 From: duncan.gibson at xs4all.nl (Duncan Gibson) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:59:36 +0200 Subject: Lunar install does not see External Hard Drive In-Reply-To: <201006230903.10765.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <632359d474a9a360bb2a904cab2a4162.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <201006230903.10765.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: Me: >> Unfortunately nobody has ever reported trying to install Lunar to be >> a bootable system from a USB disk, but that doesn't mean that it's not >> possible. Lunar is pretty flexible. Marek: > I tried once to boot Lunar from USB (exactly the first time, when I was > used to other distros solutions). Some other newcomers probably would > try to install Lunar from USB stick. Well there is a HOWTO for that on the Wiki at http://wiki.lunar-linux.org/index.php/Installation:No_CD#Usb_bootable_lunar but I don't think that Sharon was asking about a way to create a bootable image of the ISO on a USB stick in order to install on a system with no CD. I understood that the goal was to install Lunar on an external USB hard disk, install applications and customize the system, and be able to boot from it. What I wonder is whether this disk will be detached and moved between different systems... Cheers Duncan / engelsman From zbiggy at o2.pl Thu Jun 24 01:20:07 2010 From: zbiggy at o2.pl (Zbigniew Luszpinski) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:20:07 +0200 Subject: Lunar install does not see External Hard Drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006240120.15630.zbiggy@o2.pl> > The external HD is USB This means it should be visible. Plug it in and boot from CD. Then it should appear as another disk drive in Lunar partition installer. My sata drive appears as sda and pendrive or external usb hdd as sdb. Does your usb hdd appears when using other distro or LiveCD? If not make sure you have usb enabled in bios setup and external hdd is not encrypted or use proprietary windows applications to access disk. I had recently such case that someone encrypted pendrive in windows7 so it was reported as damaged on Linux and older Windows. After decrypting it it started to work on Linux and older Windowses. Sometimes some drives uses proprietary windows tools to access drive which auto opens when you insert drive. have a nice day, Zbigniew Luszpinski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is still a work in progress for a few more days as I need to reinstall Lunar without a grub on the partition - doesn't take long compared to some distros. Hopefully that will be problem solved. I will update here either way. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maintainer at lunar-linux.org Fri Jun 25 12:35:44 2010 From: maintainer at lunar-linux.org (maintainer at lunar-linux.org) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:35:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: weekly news - 20100625 Message-ID: <20100625103544.A94FF9B33A@doppio.foo-projects.org> Hi! 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xlsfonts : 1.0.2 -> 1.0.3 xterm : 259 -> 260 yaws : 1.68 -> 1.88 Moved modules: rats : devel -> security tomboy : gnome2/desktop -> mono ===================================================================== The Lunar-Linux team From shazzer.farley at googlemail.com Mon Jun 28 14:40:32 2010 From: shazzer.farley at googlemail.com (sharon farley) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:40:32 +0100 Subject: Can't boot into Lunar Message-ID: I have installed Lunar onto a partition of my external HD but did not install a bootloader as I have configured the boot menu in Lynx. When I try to boot the whole system simply reboots to the Lynx Grub2 menu. Should I have installed Grub to the partition - I didn't think it was necessary? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at v4hn.de Mon Jun 28 14:50:13 2010 From: me at v4hn.de (v4hn) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:50:13 +0200 Subject: Can't boot into Lunar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100628125013.GD5633@kuebelreiter.wlan.rz.uni-potsdam.de> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 01:40:32PM +0100, sharon farley wrote: > I have installed Lunar onto a partition of my external HD but did not > install a bootloader as I have configured the boot menu in Lynx. > > When I try to boot the whole system simply reboots to the Lynx Grub2 menu. > > Should I have installed Grub to the partition - I didn't think it was > necessary? Do you mean _Lucid Lynx Ubuntu_ Grub2? This one does look for other partitions containing grub-configurations and adds them automatically. So either you configure the lunar-kernel manually in Ubuntu grub2, or add a correct grub-configuration for your lunar- kernel on the lunar partition and rerun update-grub in ubuntu. v4hn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sofar at foo-projects.org Wed Jun 30 03:22:33 2010 From: sofar at foo-projects.org (Auke Kok) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:22:33 -0700 Subject: Wiki In-Reply-To: <201006230941.23808.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> References: <201006230941.23808.marekpasnikowski@interia.eu> Message-ID: <4C2A9C59.8070005@foo-projects.org> Marek Pasnikowski wrote: > Yesterday I registered in Wiki system. I wanted to start writing, but couldn't > find any "new article" button. Maybe that's for security reasons - that's OK. > Now I want to share my idea of the first article. I want to write exhaustive > explanation of every existing position in kernel configuration menu. I searched > for similar work in the net, but found nothing like this. It would be very > helpful for those, who compile their kernels. I myself have problems with > understanding, what each position stands for in the system. What do You think > about such a comprehensive guide? this shouldn't be done in lunar. if you really care about increasing the documentation for the kernel configuration options, you should post your work to the lkml (kernel) mailinglist, or join a project like "kernelnewbies", which has an excellent wiki documenting kernel stuff. > By the way: is there any automatic Lunar kernel generator (like genkernel for > Gentoo)? no. there is no failsafe way of doing this, so the default lunar configs are provided which cover most people's needs. Auke